Discussion:
Legion Spread in Justice 12
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John Duncan Yoyo
2007-06-14 18:41:14 UTC
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There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It appears
to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in JLA/JSA. Alex
Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a total of 16 or so
Legionnaires.
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-14 20:08:27 UTC
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Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
Too bad I stopped reading this many months ago. I would have liked
to see that spread.
John Duncan Yoyo
2007-06-14 20:30:46 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
Too bad I stopped reading this many months ago. I would have liked
to see that spread.
It's the second to last page. Worth a peek in the comic shop if you
are not picking it up.
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Tom
2007-06-14 21:07:43 UTC
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Post by John Duncan Yoyo
Post by Dan McEwen
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
Too bad I stopped reading this many months ago. I would have liked
to see that spread.
It's the second to last page. Worth a peek in the comic shop if you
are not picking it up.
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John Duncan Yoyo
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Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.
Or later when the Alex Ross JUSTICE portfolio comes out! ;-)

Tom
Slickpuppy
2007-06-14 22:02:15 UTC
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Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It appears
to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in JLA/JSA. Alex
Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a total of 16 or so
Legionnaires.
And they're all in their 70s Cockrum/Grell outfits yet! Too cool. :) A great
cherry on top for a great series.
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-15 00:47:07 UTC
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Post by Slickpuppy
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
And they're all in their 70s Cockrum/Grell outfits yet! Too cool.
:) A great cherry on top for a great series.
It is one of my favorite eras for costumes. That's what they were
wearing when I began reading the Legion. You don't know how sad I
was when Brin went back to 'normal' and Imra decided to cover up. I
also preferred more skin on Rokk, but he went back to pink.
YKW '06
2007-06-15 19:27:40 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Slickpuppy
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
And they're all in their 70s Cockrum/Grell outfits yet! Too cool.
:) A great cherry on top for a great series.
It is one of my favorite eras for costumes. That's what they were
wearing when I began reading the Legion. You don't know how sad I
was when Brin went back to 'normal' and Imra decided to cover up. I
also preferred more skin on Rokk, but he went back to pink.
Most of them just didn't make sense, though, especially the ones with so
much exposed flesh. With Brainy apparently unwilling to make some version
of his force-field tech as standard a part of Legion gear as the flight
ring and the sack-partner teammate, you'd think they'd all -want- to have
as much of their body padded, armored and ready for hand-to-hand (or
hand-to-blade, or hand-to-raygun, or whatever) as possible. Heck, Rokk's
old headgear was even a sensible idea (even if the actual execution was a
bit less so).

Count me in as preferring the more useful head-(-or-at-least-neck)-to-toe
leather outfits of the Giffen era, like those red-and-white outfits Imra
and Jeckie eventually went with, or that sleek black number (rrrowrr!)
Tasmia sported.
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-15 20:05:46 UTC
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Post by YKW '06
Post by Dan McEwen
It is one of my favorite eras for costumes. That's what they
were wearing when I began reading the Legion. You don't know how
sad I was when Brin went back to 'normal' and Imra decided to
cover up. I also preferred more skin on Rokk, but he went back
to pink.
Most of them just didn't make sense, though, especially the ones
with so much exposed flesh. With Brainy apparently unwilling to
make some version of his force-field tech as standard a part of
Legion gear as the flight ring and the sack-partner teammate,
you'd think they'd all -want- to have as much of their body
padded, armored and ready for hand-to-hand (or hand-to-blade, or
hand-to-raygun, or whatever) as possible. Heck, Rokk's old
headgear was even a sensible idea (even if the actual execution
was a bit less so).
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts. As for flesh exposure itself, people in the 30th/31st
could conceivably be less modest. We know that's true on Winath.
Post by YKW '06
Count me in as preferring the more useful
head-(-or-at-least-neck)-to-toe leather outfits of the Giffen era,
like those red-and-white outfits Imra and Jeckie eventually went
with, or that sleek black number (rrrowrr!) Tasmia sported.
Does leather help when the Emerald Eye can stand against Superboy?
Hal Shipman
2007-06-15 22:24:59 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by YKW '06
Post by Dan McEwen
It is one of my favorite eras for costumes. That's what they
were wearing when I began reading the Legion. You don't know how
sad I was when Brin went back to 'normal' and Imra decided to
cover up. I also preferred more skin on Rokk, but he went back
to pink.
Most of them just didn't make sense, though, especially the ones
with so much exposed flesh. With Brainy apparently unwilling to
make some version of his force-field tech as standard a part of
Legion gear as the flight ring and the sack-partner teammate,
you'd think they'd all -want- to have as much of their body
padded, armored and ready for hand-to-hand (or hand-to-blade, or
hand-to-raygun, or whatever) as possible. Heck, Rokk's old
headgear was even a sensible idea (even if the actual execution
was a bit less so).
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the ocntrols were
too complicated for a normal human to use. Editorially, I'm sure
having a completely invulnerable Legion would be mega-boring.

Though Levitz did have Brainy give one to Lournu around v3, #51, so
presumably, she was smart enough.

They could have gone the route that Waid took with the Flight rings in
the current series: They're just too freaking expensive to be handing
out.

Hal.










As for flesh exposure itself, people in the 30th/31st
Post by Dan McEwen
could conceivably be less modest. We know that's true on Winath.
Post by YKW '06
Count me in as preferring the more useful
head-(-or-at-least-neck)-to-toe leather outfits of the Giffen era,
like those red-and-white outfits Imra and Jeckie eventually went
with, or that sleek black number (rrrowrr!) Tasmia sported.
Does leather help when the Emerald Eye can stand against Superboy?
I don't wear no Stetson
But I'm willing to bet, son
That I'm as big a Texan as you are
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-16 02:15:50 UTC
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Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the ocntrols
were too complicated for a normal human to use. Editorially, I'm
sure having a completely invulnerable Legion would be mega-boring.
Though Levitz did have Brainy give one to Lournu around v3, #51,
so presumably, she was smart enough.
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her complete
death.
Post by Hal Shipman
They could have gone the route that Waid took with the Flight
rings in the current series: They're just too freaking expensive
to be handing out.
That would have worked.
Hal Shipman
2007-06-17 07:04:23 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the ocntrols
were too complicated for a normal human to use. Editorially, I'm
sure having a completely invulnerable Legion would be mega-boring.
Though Levitz did have Brainy give one to Lournu around v3, #51,
so presumably, she was smart enough.
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her complete
death.
Oh, right. What I'm saying though is that if they were too
complicated for 6th level/normal human intellegence to operate, it
would have been a complete waste to give one to Lournu, since there's
no way she could ever operate it.
Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Hal Shipman
They could have gone the route that Waid took with the Flight
rings in the current series: They're just too freaking expensive
to be handing out.
That would have worked.
I don't wear no Stetson
But I'm willing to bet, son
That I'm as big a Texan as you are
- Robert Earl Keen, "Amarillo Highway"
Dan McEwen
2007-06-17 11:56:31 UTC
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Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her
complete death.
Oh, right. What I'm saying though is that if they were too
complicated for 6th level/normal human intellegence to operate, it
would have been a complete waste to give one to Lournu, since
there's no way she could ever operate it.
True. Too bad Brainy didn't 'dumb down' his tech sooner in order to
save people like Invisible Kid, Ferro Lad, Chemical King, and Karate
Kid. (I doubt it would have helped Magnetic Kid since his death was
supernatural.)
Eminence
2007-06-19 17:54:02 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her
complete death.
Oh, right. What I'm saying though is that if they were too
complicated for 6th level/normal human intellegence to operate, it
would have been a complete waste to give one to Lournu, since
there's no way she could ever operate it.
True. Too bad Brainy didn't 'dumb down' his tech sooner in order to
save people like Invisible Kid, Ferro Lad, Chemical King, and Karate
Kid. (I doubt it would have helped Magnetic Kid since his death was
supernatural.)
True. What does it say about Brainy when he waits until after TWO of
her three bodies have been killed before he considers giving her a
forcefield belt?

"Lournu, now that your intellect isn't spread across multiple bodies,
I suppose you're *probably* smart enough to operate this thing..."

Eminence
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-19 21:14:48 UTC
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Post by Eminence
True. What does it say about Brainy when he waits until after TWO
of her three bodies have been killed before he considers giving
her a forcefield belt?
Especially since her first body was killed by one of his creations.
Post by Eminence
"Lournu, now that your intellect isn't spread across multiple
bodies, I suppose you're *probably* smart enough to operate this
thing..."
Or maybe her depression brought something out in her.
TheMousiah
2007-06-22 05:53:44 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Eminence
True. What does it say about Brainy when he waits until after TWO
of her three bodies have been killed before he considers giving
her a forcefield belt?
Especially since her first body was killed by one of his creations.
Post by Eminence
"Lournu, now that your intellect isn't spread across multiple
bodies, I suppose you're *probably* smart enough to operate this
thing..."
Or maybe her depression brought something out in her.
Except we learned later on that her intellect was still spread across
at least 2 bodies since she didn't actually lose a second body in the
Conspiracy. Plus, it was hinted throughout that storyline that her
first supposedly dead body might have survived Computo too! Of
course, the reboot version in LSH#42 brought us the bigger mystery-
that Brainy somehow used that loaned forcefield belt to give Luornu
natural force-field powers greater than the belt's own, though it was
never explained where she was drawing energy to power these
forcefields with.......

Plus, Brainy waited more than 5 years to bother to tell Luornu about
this, indirectly leading to the deaths of the UP Militia on Xolnar-
since General Luornu Taine could have used her forcefield powers to
save the Militia, but couldn't- since she had no clue she had these
powers!

Lilith
2007-06-17 15:29:07 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the ocntrols
were too complicated for a normal human to use. Editorially, I'm
sure having a completely invulnerable Legion would be mega-boring.
Though Levitz did have Brainy give one to Lournu around v3, #51,
so presumably, she was smart enough.
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her complete
death.
Post by Hal Shipman
They could have gone the route that Waid took with the Flight
rings in the current series: They're just too freaking expensive
to be handing out.
That would have worked.
In the current Legion, since the Legion was something of a
self-sustaining organization until they made a deal with the
authorities, where did their funding come from? Were the rings too
expensive for youngsters who had to have their headquarters in the
31st century equivalent of a barn? Or were the costly enough that
even Earthgov couldn't fund too many of them? If the latter, it still
begs the question, did the early Legion have an income on a par with
Earthgov and where did it come from?
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Slickpuppy
2007-06-17 16:05:26 UTC
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Post by Lilith
In the current Legion, since the Legion was something of a
self-sustaining organization until they made a deal with the
authorities, where did their funding come from? Were the rings too
expensive for youngsters who had to have their headquarters in the
31st century equivalent of a barn? Or were the costly enough that
even Earthgov couldn't fund too many of them? If the latter, it still
begs the question, did the early Legion have an income on a par with
Earthgov and where did it come from?
As I recall, the current Legion was originally funded by Princess Projectra,
who was sort of the 30th century equivalent of Paris Hilton before her
family died. Her parents didn't really approve of her spending her
"allowance" like that, but they did tend to spoil her a bit.
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An' you don't unnerstan' what a perfect deal it is until you realizes
that you ain't gone be stuck with it forever, either."
-Walt Kelly
Dan McEwen
2007-06-17 16:38:13 UTC
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Post by Lilith
Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the
ocntrols were too complicated for a normal human to use.
Editorially, I'm sure having a completely invulnerable Legion
would be mega-boring.
Though Levitz did have Brainy give one to Lournu around v3, #51,
so presumably, she was smart enough.
It think it had more to do with the fact that she had by this time
lost two of her three bodies and he didn't want to risk her
complete death.
Post by Hal Shipman
They could have gone the route that Waid took with the Flight
rings in the current series: They're just too freaking
expensive to be handing out.
That would have worked.
In the current Legion, since the Legion was something of a
self-sustaining organization until they made a deal with the
authorities, where did their funding come from?
IIRC, Projectra's family gave them money. That was a big issue when
Orando was destroyed. I'm pretty sure that no more rings were going
to be made from then on out.

Were the rings
Post by Lilith
too expensive for youngsters who had to have their headquarters in
the 31st century equivalent of a barn?
Are those the ones who live on the street outside of Legion HQ? I
don't think they got rings because they weren't core members. Core
members get housing at Legion HQ so their economic backgrounds don't
really play into it.

Or were the costly enough
Post by Lilith
that even Earthgov couldn't fund too many of them?
Earthgov was the enemy.
David Goldfarb
2007-06-16 22:05:10 UTC
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Post by Hal Shipman
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
At one point, the explanation for why did didn't was the ocntrols were
too complicated for a normal human to use.
Which is rather silly: give the Legionnaires who can't handle the
controls a stripped-down version. Press one button, get a 1.5-meter
radius bubble, press another and it's gone. Plenty of situations
where that'd come in handy.
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Ken Arromdee
2007-06-18 20:55:14 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
I believe Brainiac 5's force field belt could be used only by Brainiac 5.
There were single instances where Supergirl and Dream Girl used it, but
Levitz explained they were the next most intelligent Legionnaires, and
the belt Supergirl tried malfunctioned soon anyway.

It seems to be sort of like a GL ring, but harder to control.
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Carl Fink
2007-06-18 23:49:51 UTC
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Post by Ken Arromdee
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
I believe Brainiac 5's force field belt could be used only by Brainiac 5.
There were single instances where Supergirl and Dream Girl used it, but
Levitz explained they were the next most intelligent Legionnaires, and
the belt Supergirl tried malfunctioned soon anyway.
It seems to be sort of like a GL ring, but harder to control.
Dream Girl would have made a great Green Lantern. She also was the only
person able to use a flight ring for telekinetic effects, apparently because
her will power was just greater than any other Legionaire's.
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Dan McEwen
2007-06-19 00:25:03 UTC
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Post by Ken Arromdee
Post by Dan McEwen
I doubt the costume cushioned any physical damage to them, but
you're right that they should have all been equipped with force
field belts.
I believe Brainiac 5's force field belt could be used only by
Brainiac 5. There were single instances where Supergirl and Dream
Girl used it, but Levitz explained they were the next most
intelligent Legionnaires, and the belt Supergirl tried
malfunctioned soon anyway.
Except for Luornu, who is apparently smarter than anyone ever knew.
Mike Blake
2007-06-19 01:37:17 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Except for Luornu, who is apparently smarter than anyone ever
knew.
How about a bit of handwaving and saying that in her new identity
of Single White Female she still had the *willpower* of three
people? I can see DC trying it...
Vic Vega
2007-06-18 21:12:47 UTC
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Post by Dan McEwen
Post by Slickpuppy
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
There was a very nice two page LSH spread in Justice 12. It
appears to be the classic Legion similar to the one appearing in
JLA/JSA. Alex Ross style Wildfire, Dawnstar, Tyroc as part of a
total of 16 or so Legionnaires.
And they're all in their 70s Cockrum/Grell outfits yet! Too cool.
:) A great cherry on top for a great series.
It is one of my favorite eras for costumes. That's what they were
wearing when I began reading the Legion. You don't know how sad I
was when Brin went back to 'normal' and Imra decided to cover up. I
also preferred more skin on Rokk, but he went back to pink.
Most of them just didn't make sense, though, especially the ones with so
much exposed flesh. With Brainy apparently unwilling to make some version
of his force-field tech as standard a part of Legion gear as the flight
ring and the sack-partner teammate, you'd think they'd all -want- to have
as much of their body padded, armored and ready for hand-to-hand (or
hand-to-blade, or hand-to-raygun, or whatever) as possible. Heck, Rokk's
old headgear was even a sensible idea (even if the actual execution was a
bit less so).
Count me in as preferring the more useful head-(-or-at-least-neck)-to-toe
leather outfits of the Giffen era, like those red-and-white outfits Imra
and Jeckie eventually went with, or that sleek black number (rrrowrr!)
Tasmia sported.
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Well, they did have "Transuits" that could have afforded some
protection. Transuits were transparent form fitting space suits.

Since they seemed to be wearing them anytime one of their space ships
got blown open (This happened to them quite a bit), who's to say they
weren't wearing them all the time?

After all the Legionnaires never left home without either their flight
rings or their telepathic ear plugs (the gizmos that allow them to
talk to each other in space), either.
Mike Blake
2007-06-19 01:32:51 UTC
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Post by Vic Vega
Well, they did have "Transuits" that could have afforded some
protection. Transuits were transparent form fitting space
suits.
Something I wouldn't call the height of 30th C technology, since
Batman (I believe) introduced something almost identical to the
Justice League way back in the Silver Age.

--Mike Blake
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