Discussion:
LSH cancelled
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Rob Jensen
2008-03-13 02:34:23 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please -- this is how the original
Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago. The LSH
cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.

Also, I would hope that Warner would see the viability of, perhaps,
making LSH their first direct-to-DVD-only series. Three or four
episodes per DVD, slightly higher price point ($19.99 retail,
perhaps?) Then talk CN into airing the episodes *after* their DVD
release.

-- Rob
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LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Duggy
2008-03-13 03:02:09 UTC
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Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please --
Yes, totally. Starting after this sentence.
Post by Rob Jensen
this is how the original Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago.
Happens.
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.

(Supergirl and the) LSH is a completely different issue.
Post by Rob Jensen
Also, I would hope that Warner would see the viability of, perhaps,
making LSH their first direct-to-DVD-only series.
I thought B5: The Lost Tales was that...
Post by Rob Jensen
Three or four
episodes per DVD, slightly higher price point ($19.99 retail,
perhaps?)
A understandable, but dangerous step.
Post by Rob Jensen
Then talk CN into airing the episodes *after* their DVD
release.
Like Fox is doing with the Futurama and Family Guy movies?
Post by Rob Jensen
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
OK.

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Rob Jensen
2008-03-13 08:08:35 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please --
Yes, totally. Starting after this sentence.
Post by Rob Jensen
this is how the original Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago.
Happens.
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.
Okay, I'm going to be sarcastic *and* factually correct for a moment .
. .
-- you *do* know that the comic book for the Justice League Unlimited
animated series is still going something like 2 years or so after the
animated series was cancelled? #45 being solicited to ship in May.
Oh, and Teen Titans Go! is still being published at least a year after
the cancellation of its animated series.

Oh, and that Scooby Doo? It's at issue #132 of a new comics series
when the original animated series it was based on ended something like
two decades ago. Okay, Scooby's an exception.
Post by Duggy
(Supergirl and the) LSH is a completely different issue.
Seriously, though, I wouldn't be too surprised to see DC stick with
the comics series for at least a year or two if not more as the
animated series is 10 times better a concept than Waid & Kitson's
terrible reboot of the comics' LSH has been. Says something when
bringing Shooter onto a series improves its quality by light-years.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Ken Arromdee
2008-03-21 20:50:35 UTC
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Post by Rob Jensen
Says something when
bringing Shooter onto a series improves its quality by light-years.
Um, what? Shooter can write extremely wqell. Look at early Valiant, for
instant.
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story, Superman doesn't jump off buildings and can't fly. Deconstruction is
writing a story where Superman can't fly but he still jumps off of buildings."
Carl Fink
2008-03-22 00:48:42 UTC
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Post by Ken Arromdee
Post by Rob Jensen
Says something when
bringing Shooter onto a series improves its quality by light-years.
Um, what? Shooter can write extremely wqell. Look at early Valiant, for
instant.
How about his, you know, early Legion?
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Rob Jensen
2008-03-22 08:54:30 UTC
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Post by Carl Fink
Post by Ken Arromdee
Post by Rob Jensen
Says something when
bringing Shooter onto a series improves its quality by light-years.
Um, what? Shooter can write extremely wqell. Look at early Valiant, for
instant.
I did, Ken. He was a great plotter, but awful with the dialogue. And
I had a refresher course on that by getting the Harbinger HC through
Amazon.
Post by Carl Fink
How about his, you know, early Legion?
God, no. Shooter didn't really know how to do anything but over-write
with stultifyingly stupid dialogue until his *current* run on the
Legion. Everything else he's written himself has pretty much been
shit to read. Pretty to look at in some places at Valiant, but shit
to read -- and I say that as a fan of everything *else* at Valiant and
I *do* agree that his being forced out the company was vile on all
levels.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Tom
2008-03-13 13:08:49 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please --
Yes, totally. Starting after this sentence.
Post by Rob Jensen
this is how the original Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago.
Happens.
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.
Teen Titans Go would contratict your assertion, however.

Tom
m***@kw.igs.net
2008-03-13 14:32:28 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.
Right. Right. You're so right. You couldn't be more right.

Except, of course, that Teen Titans Go! is still going strong and the
series upon which it was based was cancelled years ago.

And Justice League Unlimited was cancelled years ago... and somehow
that comic still manages to make it onto the racks each month.

murr
m***@kw.igs.net
2008-03-13 18:50:45 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please --
Yes, totally. Starting after this sentence.
Post by Rob Jensen
this is how the original Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago.
Happens.
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.
Right. You're right, right, right.

So right.

Except, of course, for Teen Titans Go! which is continuing to be
published a few years after the show was canceled.

And what's this I see on the rack beside Teen Titans Go! That's
right. Justice League Unlimited... also canceled years ago and yet,
still, it's finding a home in comic shops around the country.

murr
mrjl
2008-03-15 18:41:19 UTC
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Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please --
Yes, totally.  Starting after this sentence.
Post by Rob Jensen
this is how the original Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago.
Happens.
Post by Rob Jensen
The LSH cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
LSH in the 31st Century hasn't been cancelled... however, once an
animated series goes the comic based on it doesn't last too long.
(Supergirl and the) LSH is a completely different issue.
I was actually asking about the main DCU comic. I thought maybe the
title of the thread was sayinng the DCU comic was cancelled and the
body of the post was; and the cartoon is too.

JLB
John Duncan Yoyo
2008-04-07 14:13:33 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
Also, I would hope that Warner would see the viability of, perhaps,
making LSH their first direct-to-DVD-only series.
I thought B5: The Lost Tales was that...
It's only a series if they make two or more. Given that it did way
better than they expected it's surprising that JMS hasn't announced a
follow up yet
Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
Three or four
episodes per DVD, slightly higher price point ($19.99 retail,
perhaps?)
A understandable, but dangerous step.
For the LSH I doubt it. There are substantial group of rabid fan
boys'n'gals who tend to buy almost anything.

Unfortunately I'd bet the DVD sales are low for the LSH on DVD since
they are only four packs instead of a complete season. For new
material I'd pay for 90 minutes but episodes I still have sitting on
my TiVo it isn't worth it.
Post by Duggy
Post by Rob Jensen
Then talk CN into airing the episodes *after* their DVD
release.
Like Fox is doing with the Futurama and Family Guy movies?
Isn't CN a Time Warner property? Should be a no brainer.
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OM
2008-06-01 07:56:54 UTC
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:13:33 -0400, John Duncan Yoyo
Post by John Duncan Yoyo
Isn't CN a Time Warner property? Should be a no brainer.
...Although I loved both seasons of the LSH cartoon, my money is on an
adaptation of The Great Darkness Saga. The only problem is that
they'll make the same mistake they made with "Superman/Doomsday" and
"New Frontier" - they'll make it only about 70 minutes long so
Cartoonless Network can air it with commercials in a 90-minute time
slot. "New Frontier" needed at least an extra 30 minutes to do the
story true justice, and the GDS is no different.

[thinks]

...I wonder if Google Groups goes back far enough to locate that post
I did following the Five Year Crap, where I detailed how the GDS could
work without a Superboy or a Supergirl? Considering the Siegel Heirs
debacle, such tweaking might be a bit necessary.

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Billy Bissette
2008-03-13 07:46:01 UTC
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Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please -- this is how the original
Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago. The LSH
cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
Also, I would hope that Warner would see the viability of, perhaps,
making LSH their first direct-to-DVD-only series. Three or four
episodes per DVD, slightly higher price point ($19.99 retail,
perhaps?) Then talk CN into airing the episodes *after* their DVD
release.
More likely they'd just do animated movies, as with Teen Titans
and Justice League.

Too bad "Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo" wasn't actually that
great. Wasn't there supposed to be a second TT animated movie?
Did it ever come out?
syvyn11
2008-03-13 11:24:50 UTC
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Post by Billy Bissette
Post by Rob Jensen
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
noting that the animated series has breathed its last with season two.
So is this the comic, the animated series or both?
Clearly the comic.
Duggy, be less sarcastic please -- this is how the original
Spider-Girl cancellation rumors had gotten started years ago. The LSH
cartoon's comic hasn't been cancelled.
Also, I would hope that Warner would see the viability of, perhaps,
making LSH their first direct-to-DVD-only series. Three or four
episodes per DVD, slightly higher price point ($19.99 retail,
perhaps?) Then talk CN into airing the episodes *after* their DVD
release.
More likely they'd just do animated movies, as with Teen Titans
and Justice League.
Too bad "Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo" wasn't actually that
great. Wasn't there supposed to be a second TT animated movie?
Did it ever come out?
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
Duggy
2008-03-13 13:01:12 UTC
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Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Titans:_The_Judas_Contract:
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"

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John Desmarais
2008-03-13 14:22:57 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"
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The next direct to video DC animated feature from Bruce Timm will be
"Batman: Gotham Knight", currently in post-production. Anime-inspired
anthology film. Comprised of six short stories, from diverse creators,
including Josh Olsen, David S. Goyer, and Brian Azzarello. Directed
by (each segment has a different director) Yasuhiro Aoki, Futoshi
Higashide, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Toshiyuki Kubooka, Hiroshi Morioka, &
Shoujirou Nishimi. Kevin Conroy does the voice of Batman.

In theory, Bruce Timm's follow up to "Batman: Gotham Knight" will be a
Wonder Woman movie (I've heard virtually nothing about it, but I think
Nathan Fillion is slated to voice Steve Trevor).

Warner is listing "Judas Contract" on their schedule to follow "Wonder
Woman", for whatever that's worth.

JD
Duggy
2008-03-14 02:49:13 UTC
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Post by John Desmarais
In theory, Bruce Timm's follow up to "Batman: Gotham Knight" will be a
Wonder Woman movie (I've heard virtually nothing about it, but I think
Nathan Fillion is slated to voice Steve Trevor).
Shoe-horning the The Dark Knight prequel makes sense.
Post by John Desmarais
Warner is listing "Judas Contract" on their schedule to follow "Wonder
Woman", for whatever that's worth.
That sounds like it'll remain on the bottom of the list until they run
out of other things they want to make.

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Michael
2008-03-13 17:01:07 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"
If/when it's made, it'll be interesting to see how they handle tJC. In
how they go at the challenge of animation looking like Perez' artwork as
well as the whole thing with Slade & Tara.

FWIW, I'd heard that they were going to keep things as they were in the
book minus any direct-references to their relationship (and it's been
long enough since I've read it that I don't recall any), though Tara
would no longer be a smoker.

Michael
Tim Turnip
2008-03-13 23:19:31 UTC
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Post by Michael
Post by Duggy
Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"
If/when it's made, it'll be interesting to see how they handle tJC. In
how they go at the challenge of animation looking like Perez' artwork as
well as the whole thing with Slade & Tara.
FWIW, I'd heard that they were going to keep things as they were in the
book minus any direct-references to their relationship (and it's been
long enough since I've read it that I don't recall any)...
There was no direct reference, as I recall -- just an indirect
implication due to the fact that she hung around his pad wearing
negilgee. They did likewise with dames in old Hollywood movies.
Michael
2008-03-14 00:01:46 UTC
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Post by Tim Turnip
Post by Michael
Post by Duggy
Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the original
material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is supposed to be animated
closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse Style. And some have said
that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will be in the movie.
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"
If/when it's made, it'll be interesting to see how they handle tJC. In
how they go at the challenge of animation looking like Perez' artwork as
well as the whole thing with Slade & Tara.
FWIW, I'd heard that they were going to keep things as they were in the
book minus any direct-references to their relationship (and it's been
long enough since I've read it that I don't recall any)...
There was no direct reference, as I recall -- just an indirect
implication due to the fact that she hung around his pad wearing
negilgee. They did likewise with dames in old Hollywood movies.
I thought perhaps Wintergreen might've said something in tJC about it.

Michael
Billy Bissette
2008-03-14 00:35:59 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by syvyn11
That would be The New Teen Titans:The Judas Contract, based on the
original material by Marv Wolfman and George Perze. It is
supposed to be animated closer to George's stlye than the TimmVerse
Style. And some have said that the Slade/Terra nightie scene will
be in the movie.
"Currently, the animated film is on hold, according to screenwriter
Marv Wolfman"
I think back before Trouble in Tokyo was released, it was being
listed as something like February 2008. That's why I wondered what
happened to it.
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