DC Universe #0

Hmm!! Smells like a reboot. Makes sense, they got to play around with
more adult Legionnaires for a while but the original appeal was that
they were younger people, right?

Post by Duggy
<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/RRP08/DCUZero.html>
Seems to be a lot of Legionaire on the cover...
What do people think?
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Dan McEwen

2008-02-15 03:44:22 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Hmm!! Smells like a reboot. Makes sense, they got to play around with
more adult Legionnaires for a while but the original appeal was that
they were younger people, right?

We have a younger cast in the current LSH book. A reboot seems unlikely
since the creative team, title, and direction of the book all just
changed.

v***@gmail.com

2008-02-17 06:21:58 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Hmm!! Smells like a reboot. Makes sense, they got to play around with
more adult Legionnaires for a while but the original appeal was that
they were younger people, right?

We have a younger cast in the current LSH book. A reboot seems unlikely
since the creative team, title, and direction of the book all just
changed.

Actually, they DON'T really seem younger in the current run. They seem
to be an already established group, it's definitely not year one
because they're already become a political sort of force by the time
the series started. And, more tellingly, we find out about people's
relationships and back stories via flash backs and characters
recalling past things that have "happened". For example, the whole
"Shrinking Violet is a myth" thing. At a certain point, it's explained
that only the oldest members know that she exists, while the younger
recruits think she's a prank pulled on newbies. This sort of set up
would only be possible if the Legion has been around for a while, old
enough to have different waves of recruits. Another example is Karate
Kid recalling his relationship to Phantom Girl, all of this is done as
a recall of experiences they've had together over a longer period of
time.

Furthermore, art wise certain "new" members are drawn looking younger
than the others, most notably Lyle Norg who is "new" compared to the
tall, adult looking Brainiac 5 and Cosmic boy. (check it out:
Loading Image...

).

Didn't every OTHER zero-hour/"Crisis" thing signal a reboot? Why would
this be different?

Dan McEwen

2008-02-17 11:07:35 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com

Post by v***@gmail.com
Hmm!! Smells like a reboot. Makes sense, they got to play around
with more adult Legionnaires for a while but the original appeal
was that they were younger people, right?

We have a younger cast in the current LSH book. A reboot seems
unlikely since the creative team, title, and direction of the book
all just changed.

Established, yes, but still younger. Remember, the whole point of the
Legion movement is that they were underagers.

Post by v***@gmail.com
Didn't every OTHER zero-hour/"Crisis" thing signal a reboot? Why would
this be different?

Because then we'd have four Legions.

Duggy

2008-02-26 01:42:39 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Didn't every OTHER zero-hour/"Crisis" thing signal a reboot? Why would
this be different?

Because then we'd have four Legions.

Crisis: partial reboot.
Zero Hour: Full reboot.
Final Crisis: Full reboot (although "back-dated")
Countdown: return of un-partially rebooted Legion.

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Duggy

2008-02-26 01:39:57 UTC

Post by Dan McEwen
We have a younger cast in the current LSH book. A reboot seems unlikely
since the creative team, title, and direction of the book all just
changed.

Such changes don't guarentee not reboot. Look at the last six issues
of The Legion.

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Duggy

2008-02-26 01:38:54 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Hmm!! Smells like a reboot. Makes sense, they got to play around with
more adult Legionnaires for a while but the original appeal was that
they were younger people, right?

Nah, they're in the middle of talking about 3 existing Legions. I
think there's going to be an assigning of worlds for the various
Legions...

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Duggy

2008-02-26 07:39:44 UTC

Post by Duggy
<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/RRP08/DCUZero.html>
Seems to be a lot of Legionaire on the cover...
What do people think?

<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Wondercon08/DCNation.html>
"DiDio pointed out the Perez artwork in the cover to #0, adding that
the characters pictured give a hint to what Perez will soon be working
on."

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grinningdemon

2008-02-26 22:21:33 UTC

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:44 -0800 (PST), Duggy

Post by Duggy
<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/RRP08/DCUZero.html>
Seems to be a lot of Legionaire on the cover...
What do people think?

He is known for his multi-character spreads...it's probably not a bad
fit...maybe he's working on the Legion Anniversary event they have
coming up.

Dan McEwen

2008-02-26 23:09:12 UTC

Post by grinningdemon
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:44 -0800 (PST), Duggy

Post by Duggy
<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/RRP08/DCUZero.html>
Seems to be a lot of Legionaire on the cover...
What do people think?

He is known for his multi-character spreads...it's probably not a bad
fit...maybe he's working on the Legion Anniversary event they have
coming up.

Is this the story where all 3 Legions meet?

2008-02-27 00:32:51 UTC

Post by Duggy
<http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/RRP08/DCUZero.html>
Seems to be a lot of Legionaire on the cover...
What do people think?

Not sure about this one. Clearly the legion depicetd is the one that
appeared in Action comics (i.e. the Pre-COIE legion, the original).
Does it mean there will be two legion comics? Or is the current series
going to be wrapped up and replaced with this legion?

Hmmmm......

Duggy

2008-02-27 01:32:17 UTC

Post by CB
Not sure about this one. Clearly the legion depicetd is the one that
appeared in Action comics (i.e. the Pre-COIE legion, the original).
Does it mean there will be two legion comics? Or is the current series
going to be wrapped up and replaced with this legion?
Hmmmm......

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

After that is anyone's guess.

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Michael

2008-02-27 03:26:17 UTC

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

The reboot being the previous version that Kon-El was a part of?

Post by Duggy
After that is anyone's guess.

Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it the LSH
of four worlds?

Michael

2008-02-27 04:56:13 UTC

Post by Michael

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

The reboot being the previous version that Kon-El was a part of?

Post by Duggy
After that is anyone's guess.

Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it the LSH
of four worlds?
Michael

I liked that era (in the beginning anyway), felt there was a certain
depth to it and required more thought than usual to read these issue.

John Duncan Yoyo

2008-03-03 16:09:10 UTC

Post by CB

Post by Michael

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

The reboot being the previous version that Kon-El was a part of?

Post by Duggy
After that is anyone's guess.

Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it the LSH
of four worlds?
Michael

I liked that era (in the beginning anyway), felt there was a certain
depth to it and required more thought than usual to read these issue.

Me too. I think the first dozen of so issues were some of the best
stuff I have ever read. It was challenging and required a bit of
thought. When they started to dumb it down it went a bit off the
rails although I still liked the Beirbaums stuff better than some of
the reboot stuff after Waid left the first time.

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Collect the whole set.

Rob Jensen

2008-03-03 22:33:16 UTC

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:09:10 -0500, John Duncan Yoyo

Post by John Duncan Yoyo

Post by CB

Post by Michael

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

The reboot being the previous version that Kon-El was a part of?

Post by Duggy
After that is anyone's guess.

Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it the LSH
of four worlds?
Michael

I liked that era (in the beginning anyway), felt there was a certain
depth to it and required more thought than usual to read these issue.

IMO, the TMK Legion from issue #1 through Giffen's departure with the
destruction of the earth storyline in issue #38 or #39 makes a great
extended Elseworlds graphic novel. The series was never the same
afterward and, worse yet, Immomen's attempt to save the TMK storyline
by restoring the post-Earth Legion to something resembling the
original Legion was sabotaged by some terrible story twists and some
truly wretched costume design work. IMO, Kitson is a better costume
designer even though his designs are, to say the least, blander than a
direct-to-DVD Disney cartoon. Immomen doesn't just overdesign -- he
overdesigns the worst elements of costuming. Sigh.

I'd love to see the TMK stories (up to the destruction of Earth)
collected in trade form. But then again, I *also* want to see the
Spidey Clone Saga collected in trade form, too. ;)

-- Rob
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LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

Dan McEwen

2008-02-27 09:06:14 UTC

Post by Michael
Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it the
LSH of four worlds?

TMK Legion is (or was) technically the continuation of the original
Legion.

Michael S. Schiffer

2008-02-27 14:19:31 UTC

Post by Michael
Why not just add the Gawd-AWFUL Giffen/Bierbaum era and make it
the LSH of four worlds?

TMK Legion is (or was) technically the continuation of the
original Legion.

Well, yes and no. After issue #4 (IIRC-- the Mordruverse interlude,
anyway), its history was different (most notably first no Superboy at
all, then a Superboy who'd only been a member briefly) and got
patched more and more as time went on. Probably not enough clear
differences to cross the two versions over, though, unless you did it
with the Silver Age Adult Legion or something along those lines.

Mike

Duggy

2008-02-28 01:29:29 UTC

Post by Dan McEwen
TMK Legion is (or was) technically the continuation of the original
Legion.

Techincally, but then the Lightning Saga legion apparently ends at
CoIE.

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YKW (ad hoc)

2008-02-27 10:13:31 UTC

I'd say we'll see a "Legion of Three Worlds" mini, with the current
two and the reboot.

At one of last weekend's panels, it was pretty much right-out stated
we'll see that somewhere this year; in answer to a question about what
plans there are for the Legion's 50th anniversary year, something to the
effect that we can expect to see the Legion... and the Legion... and the
Legion... was provided. (I'm relying on Newsarama's reportage, though, so
who knows how accurate that is?)

Post by Duggy
After that is anyone's guess.
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Rob Jensen

2008-02-27 18:56:39 UTC

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:39:44 -0800 (PST), Duggy